Προφανώς και ο Σωτήρης το λέει γιατί αντίστοιχα 3-4 μήνες πρίν η κυκλοφορία των high elves δεν είχε αντίστοιχης κλίμακας κυκλοφορίες. Ειδικά όταν τα βασικά μοντέλα ήταν το ίδιο παλιά και στους δύο στρατούς.
Eldrac
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The sisters of slaughter are rares: enemies is base contact with them lose rank bonuses. Hydras are specials can upgrade to get a strength 4 breath attack, no regen but can regrow heads (recover lost wounds) just like the slann can with his discipline. The kraken thing has a special ability that triggers when all 5 of its attacks hits ( gets an extra attack that inflicts additional hits) has a scaly skin save and causes terror. Enemy models in base contact must re roll successful leadership tests. Both use the monster and handler rules. They have 2 signature spells just like high magic. One of the spells goes off on a 8+ and grants a unit +1 strength and then you gain D3 power dice but if you gain 3 power dice this way the wizard suffers a wound with no saves allowed. The army has always strikes first. Murderous Prowess: models with this rule re roll 1s when rolling to wound. Wizards casting Dark Magic add plus 1 to their casting attempts.
Ragnar
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Θέμα: Απ: Dark Elves Rumours Τετ Σεπ 25, 2013 8:51 am
pinky έγραψε:
Ragnar έγραψε:
from warseer
The army has always strikes first.
WHAT THE FUCK??????????????????????
o ναιιιιιιιιιιι!!!!!!!!!!ε,ρε και να ναι αληθεια! περα απο την πλακα ομως,ειδα ASF αλλα δεν ειδα Ηatred,μηπως τους το εχουν βγαλει και το εχουν αντικαταστησει με το ASF?
andreasch
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Θέμα: Απ: Dark Elves Rumours Τετ Σεπ 25, 2013 9:13 am
Το πιό πιθανό, γιατί και τα δύο μαζί θα είναι θάνατος. Θα είναι όπως στα high elf.
Boromir
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Θέμα: Απ: Dark Elves Rumours Τετ Σεπ 25, 2013 10:16 am
Γιατι μου το κανετε αυτο!Εχω ηδη τοσους στρατους...........must .....resist......
andreasch
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•The DE Army book is written by Matt Ward •The largest dual kit is the Cauldron of Blood which allows you to make either a Cauldron of Blood or a Bloodwrack Medusa. You can also use this kit to make the special character Crone Hellebron. •The next dual kit is Witch Elves and the Sisters of Slaughter – Sisters of Slaughter are apparently the lost daughters of fallen noble houses and look great. •The new DE Core box allows you to make your warriors with Spears, Swords and Shields or Repeater Cross-bows. •The Dual Hydra/Kharibdyss kit looks pretty good, there are pictures of the Hydra with different paint schemes that actually look a lot better than the leaked photo we’ve already seen. •The Special Character Shadowblade is a single pose figure that will come in a clampack •There is a Lore of Dark Magic Card set being released.
Army Special Rules/Points Cost •Dark Elves now have the armywide special rule of ASF (unsure if this will apply to monsters/cold ones) •Dark Elves also have Hatred but presumably only in the first round •Black Guard have eternal hatred •New Rule called murderous prowess allows Dark Elves to re-roll 1′s to wound. Unsure if this will extend to shooting and magic. •There is a new Beastmaster Lord Level Character which costs 300 points when naked on a Manticore •Witch Elves are core and 11 points per model. They can also take magical banners. •A unit of 30 Spear Elves and of 30 Xbow Elves with Full command costs 390 points. Unsure what options were used but that means the warriors were 12 points per model. •A DE Sorceress Hero looks to be 80 points •Cauldrons of Blood still come out of Hero slots and look to have increased in points. They can join units and one of their powers allows a unit to re-roll to wound. In the Batrep a unit with a Cauldron and this buff up deletes a unit of Sobunz. •Bloodwrack Medusas are rare and have a shooting attack called Bloodwrack Stare. Not sure what it does •Hydras can now regain wounds in a manner similar to the Slann with the regen power of the old ones. They are now 180 points, have monster+handler but have to buy their breath weapon. •Lore of Dark Magic – The attribute is called spiteful conjuration and does extra wounds to enemies that have spells cast on them. Unsure of how the mechanic works but could be similar to Tz lore attribute? •Lore of Dark Magic – Only spell mentioned is called Word of Pain and it reduces WS/BS/I •A Dreadlord with Heavy Armour and a Shield on a Black Dragon costs 449 points. •Cold Ones are 30 points and have 2 Attacks, unsure if the cold ones themselves have ASF
Ragnar
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•Dark Elves also have Hatred but presumably only in the first round Τι εννοεί ο ποιητής ;;; Έτσι και αλλιώς μόνο για το πρώτο γύρο μάχης ισχύει !!!! Έκτος και αν εννοεί μόνο για το πρώτο γύρο του παιχνιδιού
pinky
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•Dark Elves also have Hatred but presumably only in the first round Τι εννοεί ο ποιητής ;;; Έτσι και αλλιώς μόνο για το πρώτο γύρο μάχης ισχύει !!!! Έκτος και αν εννοεί μόνο για το πρώτο γύρο του παιχνιδιού
οχι ρε μαστορα το γραψανε ετσι για να το διαφοροποιησουν απο το eternal hatred λες και δεν τους εφτανε το asf με ψηλο initiative θελανε και hatred μην τυχον και καποιος βρεθει και δεν εχουνε re-roll!!!!!
Ragnar
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Sisters of Slaughter: WS 6, I 6, A 2 and a 4++ ward μαζι με ability να σου κανουν negate ranks
"Dreadspears are 9ppm The war Hydra is infact 180ppm including the fiery roar upgrade fyi Also all dark elves have hatred (high elves) special rule and ASF! Black guard are stubborn, eternal hatred, murderess prowess, ASF... and ItP Stats look to be 5, 5, 4, 3, 3, 1, 6, 2, 9... "
"Some more info from WD
War Hydra is 180 points including fiery roar. Interesting the WD description talks about a lashing tail and poisoned tipped claws (possible upgrades IMO). The WD describes the War Hydra being able to regain wounds during the game, and then goes on to say its like an improved regeneration rule.
Dreadspears are 9ppm with Shield and spear, whilst rptxbows are 12ppm.
All Dark Elves all have ASF, Hatred (High Elves), and murderess prowess special rules
Witchelves also have Frenzy, and Poisoned attacks on top of ASF, Hatred (HE) and MP. The frenzy is increased to +2 attacks with the CoB apparently (unconfirmed)
The CoB also magnifies murderous prowess - reroll all failed to wound rolls instead of just 1's
A High Beastlord has the ability to boost nearby monster units. Unsure of how. Presumably you can still get a beastlord hero as the High beastlord is a lord option.
The Medusa can be taken on a mount (bloodwrack throne) or on foot (er tail) On foot it is 90ppm and is selected from the rare option, has some sort of shooting attack with kb
I am surprised and happy to see the return of points values in WD battle reports
Edit: Hellbron is included in the CoB model. Yes Plastic Hellbron, alongside a Bloodwrack Medussa, and a Hag... "
The Hydra btw lost its Regeneration. Has the ability to get Lifepoints back. It has d3 attacks + 1 attack for each lifepoint and will cost 160 points. (Without breath) so if it has 6 wounds (6 heads) it's d3+6 attacks......also 160 without breath could be nice
It (cauldron of blood) will have a +5 Ward for the Unit its placed inside. It also gives Frenzy (Rage or what ever it is in english) if the Unit already has it, they will get 2 attackes instead of one. It also gives something in a range of 6" around the CoB. But forgot what it is sorry. nice...5+ ward save and frenzy on executioners could be very interesting.....maybe the "something" in 6" around is stubborn? or reroll to wound?
The Medusa will have an ability to force Initative tests with models in base contact. And it has Killing blow as a Range attack. I think it was 3 Attacks. interesting
Shieldwolf
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Τα Dark Elves επανέρχονται πολύ πιό δυναμικά και μου φαίνεται ότι θα είναι σαφώς πιό επιθετικά απ'ότι πριν και θα κατεβάζουν πολύ περισσότερο κόσμο. Μερικά diverters αλογάκια, βάλε witch elves δύο 30άδες, και μαζί με τίποτα βαριά πεζικά και το καζάνι στο κέντρο...όλοι μαζικά μπροστά! Α, μη ξεχάσω, να έχουν και κάνα δυό τερατάκια στα πλάγια, έτσι ώστε να είμαστε σίγουροι
Πιστεύω ότι με τις καινούριες προσθήκες και ότι έχω διαβάσει μέχρι στιγμής, το μόνο θέμα θα είναι με τα high armor troops, τα οποία θα είναι μάλλον αντιμετωπίσιμα με μαγεία και μόνο, δε ξέρω.
Επίσης, θέλω να ξέρω, αυτό το negate rank bonus χαλάει τα steadfast? διότι τότε κάτι στρατοί σα τα skaven... τον ήπιαν! Ειλικρινά δε μπορώ να φανταστώ πως θα τα βγάλουν πέρα...
MrBrasidas045
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εχω αρρωστησει!!! οσο gia to negate rank bonus θα κανει αυτο που λεει φανταζομαι απλα δεν θα παιρνει το bonus.Το steadfast ειναι διαφορετικο.Ακομα και αν καποιος κανει disrupt τα ranks αρα ο αλλος δεν παιρνει το rank bonus τα ranks μετρανε κανονικα για το αν ειναι steadfast.
Ragnar
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Θέμα: Απ: Dark Elves Rumours Δευ Σεπ 30, 2013 9:23 am
warlock riders they're fast cavalry in rare M9 on horse. 25pts/per model. they only have hand weapon, but have 4+ward save except for wounds caused by model with mark of slaanesh or daemon of slaanesh. they're considered to be level2 wizard which is used like pink horrors. +1 for casting value for each extra rank except the first, to a max of +3. they know 2 spells, one is doombolt from DE army book(see #2221), the other is soulblight from lore of death. great unit.
Dark Rider 16pts per model with light armour. 1pts for shield, 3pts for crossbow
basic warrior cost
shield is auto. spear is another auto. 9PTS for spearmen and swordsmen.RXB is 12pts without shield upgrade(+1PTS
Sisters of Slaughters
they're rare choice 15pts/model, with shield and hand weapon. can have a magic banner up to 50pts. 4+ward save in close combat, and every close combat phase it can choose an enemy unit in base contact. they lose parry and rank bonus in combat result.(still can steadfast). if any enemy model in base contact with them have highter WS or S(before weapon matters), they get +1 to hit and wound rolls.
Kraken there is a special rule on the kraken to reroll leadership checks it's called the abyssal howl. enemy units in base contact with it must reroll successful LD test. if the majority of the unit have fear, terror or ITP then there's no effect.
chariot with RBT it's special, cost 150pts, profile is S4 T4 W4 with 5+AS, M9, two crew with spear and repeater crossbow. it has a harpoon launcher, like a bolt thrower but far more powerful. it's S7, 24'' range, and cause D3 wounds. if a monster suffer any wounds from it, the monster will be dragged D6'' directly towards it. if D6>3, the monster suffer another wound with no AS
special characters they stay the same. no new special characters
Malekith 510pts on foot. didnt change much of his rules, now the circlet grants him an bonus dice if failed his casting/dispelling attempts once per magic phase.
points and options for black guard and cold ones BG=15pts, EX=12pts, cold one knight=30pts
medusa chariot the chariot make units from this book in 6'' +1LD, and all others -1LD, called aura of agony
Witch Elves keep poison
executioners still have Killing blow
rbt is now special and 70pts, u can take four
handbow become 12''
bleakswords 9pts
shades is 16pts, hand weapon and repeater crossbow, no armour. u can take great weapon or two hand weapons by 2pts/per model
assassin 90pts with poison attack. can get two hand weapon or a handbow. access to 50pts magic items and one of three poison. one is to wound roll+1, one is KB, the other is if u wound a model, his LD-1 for the rest of the game
malus the daemon gives him +1 to WS,S,T,I and frenzy. any to hit roll of 1 hit a friendly model in base contact
supreme sorcerer is 185pts with lvl3,
dreadlord is 140pts.
sorcerer is 80pts with lvl1.
black dragon 300pts
rules for the Fleet Admiral and the Beastmaster characters
they're both lord choice. fleetmaster is 155pts he has two hand weapons, light armour and sea dragon cloak. can take 50pts magic items. have a special rule called show no weakness that if he's fighting in a challenge or killed a character and still alive, the unit he joins become unbreakable till the end of that turn. high beastmaster is 300pts which must take a manticore or scourgerunner chariot by freespear, light armour and see dragon cloak. can take 100pts magic items. have a special rule called beastslaver that at the start of each of your turns, choose a friendly monster within 3''. that monster get +D3 A till the start of your next turn.
hydra and the kharibdyss both are monsters now, without handlers. though u can see two on their base, they're nothing about them in the rules.
Ragnar
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Θέμα: Απ: Dark Elves Rumours Δευ Σεπ 30, 2013 9:37 am