High Elves Rumors

απο warseer:


High Elves:

Release Date: Unknown
The next army to be done after the Warriors of Chaos release.(Harry)
This would make them sometime early next year.(Harry)
High Elves early next year. (Meltedwing)

Author: Unknown.
The book is rumoured to have been started. (Harry)
There is no indication of who the lead writer might be.

Rules:
There are no rumours about the content of the book.
Imrik making a return, his inclusion possibly acting like Skrag but for True Dragon Princes. (This ties in with the popularity of the Caledor novels depicting mass dragon combat, the Storm of Magic novella, AND the Graham McNeil 2 part novel.)(Actuality)


Models:
New unit in plastic (Harry)
There has been a suggestion that there will be a flying Chariot. (Hastings)
Monsterous Cavalry (Skeith over on BoLS)
The monstrous cavalry are a form of lesser wingless dragon, akin to the demigryph.(Actuality)
Dragon Princes riding some form of true dragon, (possibly limited to a sun dragon) Possibly in sets of three. (Actuality)
This reminds me of a rumour from last time the book was done. There was a rumour of 'Drake riders' being sculpted by Alex Hedstrom. Maybe they missed the boat last time or there was enough great stuff already with the Dragon and Lion chariot that they got shelved.(Harry)
Both High Elves and Wood Elves may get the rumoured Treeman in their updated books. (buzz0783) This does not seem very likely to me. (Harry)
A new everqueen sculpt coming possibly riding some kind of 'critter'. No mention of Maiden Guard. (Eldargal)
Plastic kit for archers, spearmen and seaguard all in one box. (Bramgaunt)

Παμε γερα για μαιο και High elves!!

Flying Phoenix's (Frost and Fire) that can drop flame templates on units they fly over. Gets abilities based on what is roled on winds of magic
Great Eagle towing chariots (Which can have bolt throwers on them)
New Highmage of Hoeth (Swordsmaster/mage) Gets every signature from all 8 lores.
Everqueen
Silver Helms as Core
Martial Prowess across the board
Archer units with magical bows
Swordsmasters get a parry save vs shooting
New Shadow Warrior Models
The White Dwarf battle report is vs Ogres.


Belannaer may return.
There will be new model to Imrik in a huge dragon (Caledor Dragon?), according to rumors.
Hastings' flying chariot do exist, but may not be pulled by eagles.
There will be a shrine/anvil (similar tu lumynarch/hurricanum) of two known elven gods. Some buffs could be magical attacks/flaming attacks/ASF.
Dragon MC will be modelled taking Thaindon's dragon as inspiration (that elf dragon rider from the 3rd edition). Like current HE plastic dragon (which takes inspiration from a very old GW dragon).
Do not expect to see spears/LSG core units in may. The rumor holds truth, but that belongs to a further miniature wave. "Silver boys" coming later on too.
ASF will be lost as rule armywide (Harry said that alredy). This would mean a slight point decrease on miniatures.
A less likely rumor talks that there will be a "Caledor dragon", apart from current dragons.
SMs may have a path-choice attacks (+1 to hit/KB/ward save...), lions being slightly more focused in monster-killing; lion pelt would protect also in CC.
Apparently there will be new miniatures for Teclis and another "plastic mage (Belannaer we hope)".
Plus: intrigues at court coming back (maybe different from 6ed), no valor of ages (probably changed into a new rule). There will be a new racial rule shared by all elves (we are discussing if this could be something related to elven swiftness).
There will be more core units (probably four or five slots), and more rare slots (probably three to five slots).
Cruddace was not the HE designer, and a team would be working in all three elven races at once.
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Φοίνικας και βλέπω και ένα περίεργο άρμα απο κάτω (μάλλον το flying eagles bolt thrower option)! Τέλος! the last march of the elves is coming!

andreasch έγραψε:

Φοίνικας και βλέπω και ένα περίεργο άρμα απο κάτω (μάλλον το flying eagles bolt thrower option)! Τέλος! the last march of the elves is coming!

+1!

andreasch έγραψε:

the last march of the elves is coming!

και μετα τι θα γινει?θα φηγετε απο την μεση γη??????????

μηπως εχετε μπερδεψει τα παιχνιδια λιγο?

ερε isildour που σας χρειαζετε!!!!!!!!!

όχι! θα τα έχουμε σαρώσει όλα και θα φύγετε οι υπόλοιποι απο όλες τις γαίες!

Aντρεα μη δινεις σημασια.Παιζει με τραγια και ακουει μικρο μου πονυ για να μπει στο κλιμα

andreasch έγραψε:

όχι! θα τα έχουμε σαρώσει όλα και θα φύγετε οι υπόλοιποι απο όλες τις γαίες!

+1 !!!!!!!!!

Ragnar έγραψε:

Aντρεα μη δινεις σημασια.Παιζει με τραγια και ακουει μικρο μου πονυ για να μπει στο κλιμα

οχι θα καθομουνα να μαθω elfικα του tolkien σαν μερικους μερικους!!!!!

Παρτε rumours κουφαλες..




Fresh meat my hungry beasts:

All rumors thanx to: Maelström
NEW STUFF:
-HE are going to get a new war machine that mixes RBT and dragon breath/flamethrower. Nobody told Maeltröm if its something independent or part of one of the flying chariots. He thinks that maybe a new war machine.
-Some people now say there will be no MC, so maybe no dragons. Others, instead, keep saying there will be and they give very explicit details. Maelström is confident they can be one of the releases, since if they exist not there will be few new boxes and having two different infantry boxes is both unlikely and unnecessary. He will keep digging to see what he finds.
-Next magic items disappear as you know them nowadays: Star Lance, Dragon Horn, Armor of Caledor (=Imrik coming back?). There is a new magic item: Book of the Phoenix.
-Dragons have awaken. More and more powerful dragons. Imrik is coming back.
-Phoenix King is going to battle.

NEW MODELS (from MORE likely to LESS likely):
1. BOX/KIT: Flying Chariot Sky Talons. Special character on it (Finubar/Eltharion) an option for RBT/flamethrower-dragon breath war machine.
2. BOX/KIT: Phoenix/Phoenix Riders. Options for Special Character (Caradryan?), two/three types of Phoenix (Ice/Fire/Lone one).
3. BOX/KIT: Infantry: 10 Shadow Warriors/Maiden Guard (Some say they will be in two boxes and not in a multikit).
4. BOX/KIT: Monstruos Cavalry "Fire Riders" (dragons)
5. BOX/KIT: Huge Dragon/Monster. Option for Imrik.
6. BOX/KIT: New War Machine (as the one in the flying chariot option B)
7. BOX/KIT: Great Eagles.
8. BOX/KIT: Two elven gods shrines.

BLISTERS (some to be seen on may, others in the future, others never). From MORE likely to LESS likely:
1. BLISTER Warrior Mage (some say with option to build Belannaer)
2. BLISTER Alarielle
3. BLISTER Teclis
4. BLISTER Random hero

PS: Maelström's left apart some things that we are not likely to see in years such us SHs, Spears, SMs, New Griffon and the like. He insists on saying that new release will be: 4-5 boxes and 3-4 blisters, plus book and cards. No surprises (we already know almos everything about that very point). Anyway, it will be WHFB 30th anniversary, and elves are an army that needs something flashy that we haven't seen yet (as happened with Empire), and there may be a surprise.

Powered by: Maelström

Cheers.

pinky έγραψε:

Ragnar έγραψε:

Aντρεα μη δινεις σημασια.Παιζει με τραγια και ακουει μικρο μου πονυ για να μπει στο κλιμα

οχι θα καθομουνα να μαθω elfικα του tolkien σαν μερικους μερικους!!!!!

μπεεεε.....μπεεεε.....μπεεεεεε....

Μου αρέσουν όλο και πιό πολύ! Θα γυρίσω επιτέλους στα αγαπημένα μου έλφ μετά απο τρείς στρατούς και πολύ καιρό!

andreasch έγραψε:

Μου αρέσουν όλο και πιό πολύ! Θα γυρίσω επιτέλους στα αγαπημένα μου έλφ μετά απο τρείς στρατούς και πολύ καιρό!

gay!!!!!!

from warseer



UPDATE

From Gloryfan1

Swordmasters retain ASF (or similar) and move to Rare
New Helf unit in core with GW

UPDATE
From Harry

Heard about a unit with Bows and Cloaks

from bols


Some tidbits:


-Elven Dexterity: units with this rule can use parry save when wielding any weapon, even if mounted (some units may use it against shooting or even if mounted).-Elven Weapons: no penalties on two-handed or moving&shooting (there may exist extra bonus on elite units). -Elven Mages: +1 to dispel and can repeat channelings.-High Magic: More powerful spells and representing the 8 lores of magic. It is said that there is one that gives life back to a dead character and other one specific against Chaos and "Bad" armies.

νομίζω πως με όλα αυτά τα πάρρυ και τα νο πέναλτυ πάνε να καλύψουν το κενό που αφήνει η απώλεια του κανόνα asf.

High elf leaked pictures



http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?31032-High-Elf-leaked-pictures

ξαναβγαίνουν οι αμαζόνες μας! ναιιιιιιιιι!

τα μοντέλα των shadow warriors μου αρέσουν πολύ!!
στην everqueen κάτι με χαλάει στο κράνος που φοράει.. όλα τ'άλλα είναι ωραία μοντέλα,αλλά το μόνο που με προβληματίζει είναι το ιπτάμενο chariot..όχι τόσο ως προς το μοντελό αλλά για το lore,δηλαδή πώς ακριβώς θα εξηγήσουν ότι πετάει :/
νομίζω Νίκο πως το είχαμε ξανασυζητήσει αυτό το θέμα για το chariot..

δεν το θυμάμαι είναι η αλήθεια.πάντως αν κάποιος θα μπορούσε να δικαιολογήσει ιπτάμενο chariot αυτα είναι τα ελφ.

high elves teaser. Προσοχή στη σκιά του φοίνικα στο τέλος.

Αν ισχύουν ειδικά τα πρώτα rumors που λέει οτι είναι απο το wd τότε θα κλαίνε οι υπόλοιποι στρατοί!
Martial prowess ολος ο στρατός πλέον? Δηλαδή swordmasters σε 5άδα να βαράνε με ASF
και να χτυπούν 15 μοντέλα? Και να έχει περάσει και το high attribute απο μαγεία και να εχουν +1ws?
Και άν οι swordmasters εχουν κανένα ws απο τη μάνα τους όπως φημολογείται? ακόμη και 6+ να είναι με το attribute τους πάει στο 5+!!!!! Και αν είναι 5+ απο τη μάνα τους θα τους πηγαίνει στο 4+???? καφριλιά!!!!!!!!! Θέλω να δώ τι θα σταθεί απέναντί σε καμιά 40άδα απο δ'αύτους!

Source #1 - Source says from the WD
Some rumours for you all.

New Sea Guard character type. Can ride flying chariot
Hoeth Loremaster is a Lord choice and is L2 mage that knows all signature spells from battle magic.
Phoenix gets buffs based on winds of magic. If it dies, comes back on a roll of a 6
Reavers and Silverhelms core
Bolt throwers are rare
High Elf lore attribute "Shield of Saphery" grants 6+ ward save, if you have a 6+ ward save already it increase by +1
White Lions and Swordmasters still have ASF...
Phoenix can be ridden or unridden. Flame Phoenix is anointed of Asuuryan, Frost is anointed of Caradryan
Sisters of Averlorn, magic bows.

Source #2
I have contacts that have confirmed 2 things for me
A. Lord level lordmaster is in the game in some capacity(knowign 1 of each lore which is sig)
L2 wizard high elf hero stats but 3 wounds.

B. Looks like ASF is staying contary to all rumours, however whether it is speed of asuryan style with great weapon im yet to find out, however i highly doubt it and think it will flick to initiative order rather than asl. Looks like great weapons in initiative order. Also new rule partial prowess across the entire army!

C. Lothern Sky cutter chariots are the new chariot pulled by a swift feather rock! Eagle eye bolt thrower on back (possibly an upgrade)
can be a character mount for new character Lothern sea helm which is the guys you have seen with bsb in rumour sections. This guy can alos be on foot and or armed with trident.

D. Sisters of averlorn are rare choice with magical bows using wytch fire.

E. High elf core will be reavers and silver helms and high elf militia(i dont know details of this)

F. Sms and Dps WLs(characian hunters) same stats have no idea if they have extra armour or not yet.

G. Flame Spire Phoenix does a slash attack, wake of fire (like abomb it can get back up), soem type of ward, attune to magic rule.

H. Lion chariots same stats will be stubborn.

I. Shadow warriors plastic kit sold in 10s.

J. Anointed of Asuryan is character that can ride phoenix.

K. Banner of world dargon possible without bsb though i dont know what it does.

L. Sms 6+ ward possibly only vs shooting

M. RBT still in rare

N. Everqueen has an upgrade or a second character is called her hand maiden appears to be a body guard

O. High magics

Lore attribute you gain +1 to ward saves

signatures *2
Soul quench 8+16+ 18 inch
2d6/4d6 s4 magic missiles
Drain Magic is an augment and hex 7+ remians in play (not sure on details)

Spell 1 Apothesis 5+
single model 18inch
recovers a wound or boosted 12+D3 wounds

Spell no? Hand of glory5+/10+
Increases ws,bs,i,m by 1 or d3

Sorry thats all i have
Thats all I have guys hope that helps confirm or dispel some rumours, watch this space if you want the truth.


Source #3
FACTS:
1) High Magic Lore attribute is 6+ ward save on friendly units if you cast a spell on them. If your already have a ward save, this gets better by 1 point.
2) Stubborn Lion Chariots.
3) Frost and Fire phoenixes can go alone. BUT frost phoenix can only be ridden by Caradryan and fire phoenix by the Anointed of Asuryan.
4) Loremaster of hoeth is L2 Lord option with WS6 W3 A3. Knows all signatures from rulebook.
5) New Lothern Sea Guard hero character. He can ride a flying boat.
6) New Lord option: Anointed of Asuryan. He can ride a fire phoenix.
7) Silver Helms go core.
Sisters of Avelorn will have magic bows (but we do not know if any other bonuses)
9) Three army rules: Speed of Asuryan, Valor of Ages, Martial Prowess. We do not know yet if they remain the same or they have changed (apparently the latter option).
10) Flying boat name is Skycutter. LSG hero can be built on foot or as a crewmember from the Skycutter sprue. Phoenixes' names are: flamespyre/frostheart; Anointed of Asuryan and plastic Caradryan can be built either mounted or on foot from plastic sprues of phoenixes
11) Deductions: Phoenixes WON'T be MC, for they go either alone or are a hero mount. You may expect heros from other regions (avelorn, caledor, chrace)

All those things can be already considered facts, AND they are today's leaks all of them.


Source #4
New Range Items

Warhammer: High Elves
· 96 page full-colour, hardback Warhammer armies book written by Mat Ward.

High Elves Flamespyre Phoenix/ Frostheart Phoenix
· This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either a Flamespyre Phoenix or a Frostheart Phoenix, two completely new monster miniatures for Warhammer, along with two mighty warriors of renown that can ride them.

High Elves Lothern Skycutter
· This completely new flying chariot is a multipart plastic kit that can be assembled in one of three different ways. Either as a flying chariot drawn by Swiftfeather Roc, upgraded to include an Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower or a mount for a Sea Helm a new High Elf Hero.

High Elves Shadow Warriors/Sisters of Avelorn
· This box contains a multipart plastic kit that makes either ten Shadow Warriors armed with Longbow and Sword or 10 Sisters of Avelorn, a new High Elf unit armed with magical Bows of Avelorn.

Loremaster of Hoeth
· This clampack contains a new High Elf warrior mage, the Loremaster of Hoeth as he charges into battle casting a fireball spell on a sculpted base.

Repackaged High Elf Battalion
· Contains 20 Spearmen, 20 Archers, 8 Silver Helms and a High Elf Chariot (that can be assembled as a Tiranoc Chariot or a Lion Chariot of Chrace).

Uniforms and Heraldry of the High Elves Book
·72 page full-colour, hardback Uniform and Heraldry guide detailing the colour schemes, crests, banners and blazonry of the ten realms of the High Elves.

περισσότερο τυράκι!!!!!πολύ αλμυρό για τους άλλους στρατούς!

Magic
2 Signature Spells:

Drain magic, 7+ to cast. Cast on any unit (friend or foe) as an augment/hex within 18". All RiP spells are immediatley dispelled, and the effects of ALL other spells on target unit immediately cease! Boosted to effect all friend/enemy units within 18" on a 14+

Soul Quench, 8+ to cast, 2D6 St4 18" range, 16+ 4D6 St4

Spells:

1. Apotheosis, augment 5+ to cast, target immediately regains a lost wound. boosted 10+ regains +D3 wounds. Target gains fear until next magic phase.

2. Hand of Glory, augment, 5+, 18" range, WS, BS, I, or M (you choose) increased by D3. Boosted 10+ increase all listed characteristics (roll one D3 for all)

Lore Attribute: Each time a spell is cast, the caster and his unit gain +1 to their ward save (to a maximum of 3+). Models with no ward save gain a 6+

Known army composition:

Rare
Flamespyre Phoenix
Frostheart Phoenix
Sisters of Averlorn
Eagle Claw bolt thrower

Special
Swordmasters
Lothern Skycutter

Core
Silverhelms
Ellyrian Reavers
Spearmen
Archers

Lords
Loremasters of Hoeth
Annointed of Asuryan

Heros
Dragonmages
Mages
Sea Helm
Handmaiden

Flamespyre Phoenix comes back to life on a role of 6+. It requires a marker to be left in place so this either happens at the end of the turn/next magic phase or every turn. It deploys within 6" of the marker. Gains special abilities based on WoM rolls (owners turn determines). One result is 4+ ward save. Has flaming attacks and a special rule 'Wake of Fire', which means units it fly over take damage (in the battle report in WD it did 6 wounds to leadbelchers). It has at least 4 wounds.

Ok some "Rumors" for you guys:

SOA is now normal ASF
Flame Spire Phoenix does D6 + D3 per rank S4 hits
Frost Phoenix gives ASL and -1S to enemys in cc
Lothern Sky cutter(T4) can equip bolt thrower with S5
SM and WL get cheaper (favorite number of any rat)
Sisters of averlorn 24" S4

More rumors....

Sea Helm provides his chariot with a 4+ ward save. If he joined a unit, it can make a free regroup after it has been charged (!)
Annointed is a pricy Lord with a 4+ ward save

Frostheart Phoenix gives enemy units in b2b -1 strength and always strikes last
Flameheart deals d6 s4 hits to a unit he flies over , and d3 hits per every aditional rank the unit has. It can ressirect with full life.

Skycutter has s5, t4 and 4 wounds
Can have a s5 bolt thrower
Less then 100 points

Shadowwariors drop in points
Swordmasters, white lions, archers drop in points. WL and SM more than archers. Lion chariot and bolt thrower drop significantly in points.

Loremaster is expensive

Allarielle is a S4 mage, grants her unit a 5+ ward against non magical attacks, can heal herself or another character, may grand +1 to hit for 1 turn (cc and ranged), all allied wizards which use lore of life or lore of light get +4 on casting

Units cost

SM/WL 13 pts
Archers 10 pts.
Bolt throwers 50pts ( lol )
Sky cutter about 100